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	<title>Comments on: Some Seed Fell on Rocky Ground: L&#039;affaire Kiko</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-682</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jonathan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wait, so this is real? It&#8217;s an actual possibility? I guess it shouldn&#8217;t surprise me from a &lt;em&gt;business&lt;/em&gt; perspective, but I tend to be idealistic, and it kind of hurts from that emotional perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, so this is real? It&#8217;s an actual possibility? I guess it shouldn&#8217;t surprise me from a <em>business</em> perspective, but I tend to be idealistic, and it kind of hurts from that emotional perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-681</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Hoffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Raymond: No]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raymond: No</p>
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		<title>By: Raymond Brigleb</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-680</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond Brigleb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 19:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If Joyent was sold to Google, or whomever, would all our lifetime plans go away?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Joyent was sold to Google, or whomever, would all our lifetime plans go away?</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Typo. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Typo. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: App O Rama.com</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[App O Rama.com]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 20:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does Richard White go by the nickname or Ryan, or was that a typo?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does Richard White go by the nickname or Ryan, or was that a typo?</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Wilkins</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-677</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Clark Wilkins]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Aug 2006 15:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I applaud you for holding out for what you&#8217;re worth. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s much easier when you&#8217;re already profitable, but there has to be a temptation to cash out and do something easier for awhile.

	And I have no problem at all with startups cashing out. It seems to me that&#8217;s a rational motivator and end-game. Doing something purely for the beauty of it is usually a luxury reserved for those who are already financially secure or those who simply don&#8217;t care about economic matters. We can&#8217;t all be artists or nothing would get done.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I applaud you for holding out for what you&#8217;re worth. I&#8217;m sure it&#8217;s much easier when you&#8217;re already profitable, but there has to be a temptation to cash out and do something easier for awhile.</p>
<p>	And I have no problem at all with startups cashing out. It seems to me that&#8217;s a rational motivator and end-game. Doing something purely for the beauty of it is usually a luxury reserved for those who are already financially secure or those who simply don&#8217;t care about economic matters. We can&#8217;t all be artists or nothing would get done.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-676</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great question. In my experience, startups, when done right, are so consuming, require so much sacrifice on the part of the family (wife and children), are mentally and physically draining: one is essentially trying to compress a 40 year career into 5+ years, from a financial standpoint. The financial reward is the carrot. Other rewards follow, too. Other satisfactions. But those don&#8217;t pay the mortgage, educated the children, cover retirement.

	The wonderful thing about a startup is one is working on something one loves, and can see the immediate results of one&#8217;s actions (positive or negative) with a minimal of politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great question. In my experience, startups, when done right, are so consuming, require so much sacrifice on the part of the family (wife and children), are mentally and physically draining: one is essentially trying to compress a 40 year career into 5+ years, from a financial standpoint. The financial reward is the carrot. Other rewards follow, too. Other satisfactions. But those don&#8217;t pay the mortgage, educated the children, cover retirement.</p>
<p>	The wonderful thing about a startup is one is working on something one loves, and can see the immediate results of one&#8217;s actions (positive or negative) with a minimal of politics.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 17:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#8217;s what I was getting at: does reward necessarily equal financial riches? In the context of startups, that is. I mean, if the reward you seek is soul satisfaction, artistic satisfaction, to be a change in the world or, like me, just time to be a good-enough Dad, do you have to push-push-push for the money?

	An honest question, no more.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s what I was getting at: does reward necessarily equal financial riches? In the context of startups, that is. I mean, if the reward you seek is soul satisfaction, artistic satisfaction, to be a change in the world or, like me, just time to be a good-enough Dad, do you have to push-push-push for the money?</p>
<p>	An honest question, no more.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-674</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 16:27:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, I don&#8217;t want to speak for Dean and Jason, but I&#8217;m sure they didn&#8217;t do TextDrive for the money&#8230;they did it for the pain! ;) Seriously, money is just a proxy for reward. Whatever you do, make sure you&#8217;re rewarded. Make sure you have fun. But&#8230;&lt;strong&gt;all&lt;/strong&gt; startups, however fun, and however altruistic, are long, difficult, upward climbs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t want to speak for Dean and Jason, but I&#8217;m sure they didn&#8217;t do TextDrive for the money&#8230;they did it for the pain! <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  Seriously, money is just a proxy for reward. Whatever you do, make sure you&#8217;re rewarded. Make sure you have fun. But&#8230;<strong>all</strong> startups, however fun, and however altruistic, are long, difficult, upward climbs.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/08/21/some-seed-fell-on-rocky-ground-laffaire-kiko/#comment-673</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andrew]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do it for the money. Is that the thing? Is it the thing that launched TextDrive?

	OK, things change, including people&#8217;s motivations and where they&#8217;re going. And maybe some of the founders always had money in mind.

	And that&#8217;s all fine and proper. Hell, we all need money. I even had some once upon a time, or so I seem to remember.

	But TextDrive. That&#8217;s the thing. Even for those of us who weren&#8217;t there at the start, it means a lot. And I guess, sentimentally, we&#8217;d like to think that it means more to you people than the potential of a large cheque from Google or Yahoo.

	So, perhaps you tease. Have a little fun. Why not; it&#8217;s your prerogative. But tread gently.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do it for the money. Is that the thing? Is it the thing that launched TextDrive?</p>
<p>	OK, things change, including people&#8217;s motivations and where they&#8217;re going. And maybe some of the founders always had money in mind.</p>
<p>	And that&#8217;s all fine and proper. Hell, we all need money. I even had some once upon a time, or so I seem to remember.</p>
<p>	But TextDrive. That&#8217;s the thing. Even for those of us who weren&#8217;t there at the start, it means a lot. And I guess, sentimentally, we&#8217;d like to think that it means more to you people than the potential of a large cheque from Google or Yahoo.</p>
<p>	So, perhaps you tease. Have a little fun. Why not; it&#8217;s your prerogative. But tread gently.</p>
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