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	<title>Comments on: Bingo: Now available in 50 and 25 gigabyte versions</title>
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		<title>By: Jason Hoffman</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-988</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jason Hoffman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Dave

	A free bandwidth provision means that it&#8217;s not entirely a utility price. There is some bandwidth that is included with each plan at no additional cost. For example, 10 gigabytes of bandwidth is included in the 100GB of space plan, and if you do 200GB of transfer from the account then you&#8217;d be billed $38 for the other 190GB. How the bandwidth is done is no different and at the same cost as S3.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dave</p>
<p>	A free bandwidth provision means that it&#8217;s not entirely a utility price. There is some bandwidth that is included with each plan at no additional cost. For example, 10 gigabytes of bandwidth is included in the 100GB of space plan, and if you do 200GB of transfer from the account then you&#8217;d be billed $38 for the other 190GB. How the bandwidth is done is no different and at the same cost as S3.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Chiu</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-987</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Chiu]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 00:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m confused about the bandwidth issue. In your post it says:

	&lt;blockquote&gt;
		Each plan comes with a free bandwidth provision.
	&lt;/blockquote&gt;

	But then on the plan pages it lists bandwidth limits. What gives?

	Does &lt;strong&gt;free&lt;/strong&gt; refer to the fact that there are bandwidth provisions, period, that come with the account. Or does it mean that bandwidth is free? I suspect the former, but the wording isn&#8217;t clear!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused about the bandwidth issue. In your post it says:</p>
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		Each plan comes with a free bandwidth provision.
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<p>	But then on the plan pages it lists bandwidth limits. What gives?</p>
<p>	Does <strong>free</strong> refer to the fact that there are bandwidth provisions, period, that come with the account. Or does it mean that bandwidth is free? I suspect the former, but the wording isn&#8217;t clear!</p>
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		<title>By: andy</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-986</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[andy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Oct 2006 06:53:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, when I go to the signup page it still lists the 50GB plan as having &lt;em&gt;10GB&lt;/em&gt; bandwidth, even though everywhere else says &lt;em&gt;5GB&lt;/em&gt; bandwidth]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, when I go to the signup page it still lists the 50GB plan as having <em>10GB</em> bandwidth, even though everywhere else says <em>5GB</em> bandwidth</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-985</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 21:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Neil: bandwidth isn&#8217;t free. Yeah, I know some companies promise you 1tb of bandwidth for free, but that is really meaningless because they know people won&#8217;t use the products underneath. Amazon S3 charges 20 cents per gigabyte with no free bandwidth.

	For the incremental backup use case you propose, let&#8217;s assume you use 20gb of a 25gb Bingo disk. That means the first month you will owe for 17.5gb of bandwidth or $3.50. Now if your data continues to churn at 100% (20gb) each month, the price will continue to be $3.50 in bandwidth. However, if it changes anywhere below 12% (for this example), you&#8217;re fine. We did the pricing this way to provide the least expensive service possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Neil: bandwidth isn&#8217;t free. Yeah, I know some companies promise you 1tb of bandwidth for free, but that is really meaningless because they know people won&#8217;t use the products underneath. Amazon S3 charges 20 cents per gigabyte with no free bandwidth.</p>
<p>	For the incremental backup use case you propose, let&#8217;s assume you use 20gb of a 25gb Bingo disk. That means the first month you will owe for 17.5gb of bandwidth or $3.50. Now if your data continues to churn at 100% (20gb) each month, the price will continue to be $3.50 in bandwidth. However, if it changes anywhere below 12% (for this example), you&#8217;re fine. We did the pricing this way to provide the least expensive service possible.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-984</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 19:43:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As a point of true confusion, if I have a 25GB storage setup, then I must take no less than ten months to fill it because I can only use 2.5GB/month of bandwidth?  This sort of makes it unlikely that the service could be used for a full+incremental backup setup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a point of true confusion, if I have a 25GB storage setup, then I must take no less than ten months to fill it because I can only use 2.5GB/month of bandwidth?  This sort of makes it unlikely that the service could be used for a full+incremental backup setup.</p>
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		<title>By: slumos</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-983</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[slumos]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Oct 2006 10:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what kind of product are you going to build on top of the Blackbox?

	Oh wait, &#8220;If only you had a European data center&#8221;....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what kind of product are you going to build on top of the Blackbox?</p>
<p>	Oh wait, &#8220;If only you had a European data center&#8221;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-982</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 21:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Thomas: Yes. We sweep demo fairly often, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Thomas: Yes. We sweep demo fairly often, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-981</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 18:07:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Does the demo account have a public folder as well?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does the demo account have a public folder as well?</p>
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		<title>By: vivified</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-980</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[vivified]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 11:02:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If only you had a European datacenter&#8230; 250k/s just doesn&#8217;t cut it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only you had a European datacenter&#8230; 250k/s just doesn&#8217;t cut it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2006/10/18/bingo-now-available-in-50-and-25-gigabyte-versions/#comment-979</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Oct 2006 09:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Jim, you&#8217;re right, its required for Mac OS X too. Required for any OS with a recent WebDAV client. The reason we have the trailing /bingo, though, is for Windows XP compatibility.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jim, you&#8217;re right, its required for Mac OS X too. Required for any OS with a recent WebDAV client. The reason we have the trailing /bingo, though, is for Windows XP compatibility.</p>
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