Comments on: On Grids, the Ambitions of Amazon and Joyent

By: Why EC2 isn’t yet a platform for "normal" web applications « Joyeur

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[...] a previous article, On Grids, the Ambitions of Amazon and Joyent, I made a few [...]

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By: Schleining Lita

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By: Nate Westheimer

Nate Westheimer — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 06:50:45 +0000

@Andrew:Isn’t the issue scale? Amazon and Joyent have cheaper costs per GB transfered & per GB stored. They pass this saving on to little folks like me or bigger folks like Smugmug, and make a profit. It’s just not such an interesting point to make for me, as a consumer. I know I can’t achieve those prices, so I want to know why this post seems to be about Amazon. What is Joyeur saying about their service compared with Amazon’s?

By: Bill Boebel

Bill Boebel — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:35:37 +0000

> So is Webmail.us’s use of Amazon’s web services> a success for Amazon or a failure of Rackspace?> Or both? Here are my thoughts: http://billboebel.typepad.com/blog/2006/11/amazon_vs_racks.html

By: Tim

Tim — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:03:48 +0000

Looks like Jonathan Schwartz gave a nice shout out to Joyent.

http://blogs.sun.com/jonathan/entry/tomorrows_fortune_500

By: Douglas F Shearer

Douglas F Shearer — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 15:56:57 +0000

Great article Jason, I enjoy the leaking of little snippets of data about peoples infrastructure, but you just tell the whole story! Ace.

Why the name change from Container to Accelerator? Is it purely to distinguish your product from it’s implementation technology (Sun Solaris Containers)?

I liked the ‘Container’ name, as it gave a good mental image as to what you were getting. ‘Accelerator’ sounds a bit like those expensive appliances late 90s companies would have on their world-facing network connections.

By: Werner

Werner — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 09:56:53 +0000

Jason, the non-utilization argument does work as there is a strong seasonality to some businesses in which you can predict what exces capacity you will have when and where. This can work at an hourly/daily/monthly basis. e.g. Amazon needs to be scaled for its peak load during the year which is a relatively short period during certain days. You are right that for storage this is slightly different, although there are some seasonal needs, and you can easily imagine that there are many nodes completely under-utlizing the storage capacity they come with, so there is a some reuse you could do there. I am not saying that that is how S3 is designed, but there are ways in cutting and slicing through a large operation that would allow you to reclaim resources. I agree that the time scales are very different (EC2 hours versus S3 months) and at the larger timescales it because more complex to use them for adaptive management.

By: andrew

andrew — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:34:14 +0000

Eck: s/then/than/

By: andrew

andrew — Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:25:13 +0000

@Nate: the way I read it is that if Joyent can match S3’s pricing and still have a profit margin, it’s clearly possible for another company to roll its own storage infrastructure cheaper then buying S3.