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	<title>Comments on: The benefits of IMAP and open: iPhone and Joyent Mail</title>
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		<title>By: Raymond Brigleb</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2391</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Raymond Brigleb]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My iPhone works great with Joyent&#8217;s IMAP &#8211; I love it. The only thing missing is spam protection, and it is sorely missed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My iPhone works great with Joyent&#8217;s IMAP &#8211; I love it. The only thing missing is spam protection, and it is sorely missed.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Barron</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2394</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott Barron]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 01:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As David pointed out, a given IMAP implementation may or may not support keywords &#8211; which is the basis of tagging.

	We&#8217;ve already been down that road with Connector.  Courier&#8217;s IMAP implementation, which we use, becomes horrifically slow as the number of distinct keywords in a given mailbox increases due to the way it (Courier) stores and indexes these keywords internally.  Other IMAP implementations had varying degrees of user defined keyword support, generally even more inadequate than Courier.

	-Scott]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As David pointed out, a given IMAP implementation may or may not support keywords &#8211; which is the basis of tagging.</p>
<p>	We&#8217;ve already been down that road with Connector.  Courier&#8217;s IMAP implementation, which we use, becomes horrifically slow as the number of distinct keywords in a given mailbox increases due to the way it (Courier) stores and indexes these keywords internally.  Other IMAP implementations had varying degrees of user defined keyword support, generally even more inadequate than Courier.</p>
<p>	-Scott</p>
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		<title>By: shofr</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2395</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[shofr]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jul 2007 00:36:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slightly off topic:

	My biggest issue with email in general on iPhone is the lack of client side spam filtering.  I have access to my IMAP junk folder, but don&#8217;t have an automatic way of moving items there based on even simple rules.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off topic:</p>
<p>	My biggest issue with email in general on iPhone is the lack of client side spam filtering.  I have access to my IMAP junk folder, but don&#8217;t have an automatic way of moving items there based on even simple rules.</p>
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		<title>By: kael</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2396</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Regarding tags in Thunderbird, they are not really well implemented.

	The &#8216;foo&#8217; tag created from client 1 can be seen from Thunderbird if it is added in the preferences pane (odd design, though) ; see &#8216;Edit -&gt; Preferences -&gt; Display -&gt; Tags&#8217;.

	This solution is not very smart because it requires to know all the IMAP keywords and to add them each time a new account is configured in Thunderbird.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding tags in Thunderbird, they are not really well implemented.</p>
<p>	The &#8216;foo&#8217; tag created from client 1 can be seen from Thunderbird if it is added in the preferences pane (odd design, though) ; see &#8216;Edit -&#062; Preferences -&#062; Display -&#062; Tags&#8217;.</p>
<p>	This solution is not very smart because it requires to know all the IMAP keywords and to add them each time a new account is configured in Thunderbird.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2392</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Michael]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 02:18:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some phones can do both if you have the right software. My Nokia N80 does IMAP natively (tested with Joyent) and I use Roadsync by Dataviz to do MS ActiveSync for Exchange. There&#8217;s a GMail app for it too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some phones can do both if you have the right software. My Nokia N80 does IMAP natively (tested with Joyent) and I use Roadsync by Dataviz to do MS ActiveSync for Exchange. There&#8217;s a GMail app for it too.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Frank: You&#8217;re right. However, section 2.3.2 of the RFC states that servers &#8220;MAY&#8221; (emphasis in the document) allow for non-system flags (the type that could be used as tags). It&#8217;s not a given.

	Further, it doesn&#8217;t seem to me there is a way to move tag clouds between devices (even using Thunderbird 2). If I tag a given email message &#8220;foo&#8221; using Thunderbird 2 on my laptop, the &#8220;foo&#8221; tag doesn&#8217;t appear on the same email message when read using Thunderbird 2 on my desktop (as far as I can tell), let alone appear as a tag I can use for other emails.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Frank: You&#8217;re right. However, section 2.3.2 of the RFC states that servers &#8220;MAY&#8221; (emphasis in the document) allow for non-system flags (the type that could be used as tags). It&#8217;s not a given.</p>
<p>	Further, it doesn&#8217;t seem to me there is a way to move tag clouds between devices (even using Thunderbird 2). If I tag a given email message &#8220;foo&#8221; using Thunderbird 2 on my laptop, the &#8220;foo&#8221; tag doesn&#8217;t appear on the same email message when read using Thunderbird 2 on my desktop (as far as I can tell), let alone appear as a tag I can use for other emails.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Fischer</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2389</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frank Fischer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jul 2007 01:06:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought IMAP support tags since ages. It&#8217;s called flags and the RFC (3501) specifies some system flags and supports user defined flags. I think that thunderbird 2 supports assigning these flags.

	Regards, Frank]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought IMAP support tags since ages. It&#8217;s called flags and the RFC (3501) specifies some system flags and supports user defined flags. I think that thunderbird 2 supports assigning these flags.</p>
<p>	Regards, Frank</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Van Dyk</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2007/07/21/the-benefits-of-imap-and-open-iphone-and-joyent-mail/#comment-2390</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joe Van Dyk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 22:57:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why the hell does IMAP on blackberries suck so bad?

	And why the hell does the iPhone not support exchange?

	Is it too much to ask for a phone to support both exchange and imap?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why the hell does IMAP on blackberries suck so bad?</p>
<p>	And why the hell does the iPhone not support exchange?</p>
<p>	Is it too much to ask for a phone to support both exchange and imap?</p>
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