Graphing Social Patterns: Joyent Web Application Presentation

Here are the slides from my panel with Jeff Barr of Amazon Web Services at the Graphing Social Patterns conference. We were surprised we are more than competitive to Amazon Web Services for real world web applications that actually have actual users (i.e. not just a proof-of-concept). In the slides, we profile a top 50 Facebook application costing $3000 per month (an actual customer). I’ve used the calculator on Amazon Web Services’ site and the same traffic and compute costs more than $30,000 on Amazon. Please check. For an emerging application (“long tail”) we show an application running on a large Joyent Accelerator (=$125/month) costing more than $200 on Amazon Web Services. As I said, please check our math. Kudos to Amazon for evangelizing the idea of on-demand infrastructure. But these real-world examples show Amazon Web Services has some significant work to do to offer customers actual cost benefits. Joyent offers those benefits today. Please check our math. Maybe Amazon could bundle free shipping with that…

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12 Comments

  1. Luke
    Posted October 10, 2007 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    I don’t see the cost of hardware load balancing listed in the slides. AWS doesn’t offer that, but since you mention it earlier in the slides it seems like it should be noted.

  2. Carson McDonald
    Posted October 10, 2007 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

    On your “Top 50” facebook app is that 40TBytes in one month over the internet to facebook?

  3. Tim
    Posted October 10, 2007 at 7:30 pm | Permalink

    David

    * How many Accelerators,

    * Which level of Accelerator (S,M,L etc) and

    * How much data is the Top 50 Facebook app using?

    Without that information, it’s difficult to make a comparison to Amazon.

  4. David Young
    Posted October 10, 2007 at 10:43 pm | Permalink

    @Tim: all that data is in the slides. Slide 12.

  5. Carson McDonald
    Posted October 10, 2007 at 11:24 pm | Permalink

    David, are saying you guys give them 40TB a month (that is a full 127Mb/s) for $500?

  6. David Young
    Posted October 10, 2007 at 11:30 pm | Permalink

    @Carson: yes. That’s what I’m saying. And if you have an app running on Accelerators that pushes the same amount, we’ll do the same for you.

  7. Ajay
    Posted October 13, 2007 at 9:18 pm | Permalink

    As Carson mentioned, why would anyone think you would be cheaper when your pricing page shows bandwidth limits that are much lower? Also, you have two categories in your pricing table that most people would assume to mean the same thing, ‘bandwidth’ and ‘data transfer per month,’ confusing the issue further.

  8. Kristie Wells
    Posted October 17, 2007 at 9:58 pm | Permalink

    Hi Ajay,

    I was in the middle of updating the web page when David wrote this post. We actually have lovely bandwith quotas on the Accelerators, and the ‘data transfer’ item has been removed as it was erroneously listed on the page.

  9. Ajay
    Posted October 18, 2007 at 5:24 am | Permalink

    Thanks for the explanation, Kristie. Perhaps Joyent could post an explanation someplace on when those bandwidth quotas are waived, as David claims? Right now, it’s difficult to reconcile those quotas with David’s claims of what sounds like unmetered bandwidth.

  10. Alex
    Posted October 20, 2007 at 2:41 am | Permalink

    The numbers don’t quite add up for the top 50 application.

    The total storage for those 10 servers would be 300GiB and total bandwidth 24TB. After the updates in the packages they are more competitive compared to Amazon EC2

    Which is inaccurate, the slides or the website?

  11. Joh Fuller
    Posted October 23, 2007 at 5:01 am | Permalink

    I don’t see why you guys are so skeptical. I don’t think any of you have actually used the Amazon services being mentioned. If you have ever run a bandwidth intensive application on Amazon then that significant bandwidth cost is the first thing that you notice. Of course, hopefully you would have done the math before committing to the move. Amazon services are just expensive. Who you are comparing them to doesn’t even much matter.

  12. Jason A. Hoffman
    Posted October 25, 2007 at 7:01 pm | Permalink

    @Joh, of course we’ve used all of the Amazon services mentioned.


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