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	<title>Comments on: Google App Engine Misfit Toys: Come to Jill</title>
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		<title>By: phenteramine</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3961</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[phenteramine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 11:17:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Best wishes, your constant reader]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best wishes, your constant reader</p>
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		<title>By: twiter</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3960</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[twiter]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 16:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Today you are in good shape, thanks for the post]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Today you are in good shape, thanks for the post</p>
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		<title>By: Pon de Lion</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3959</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Pon de Lion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 06:42:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#8217;t you improve your own service and pricing instead of bashing other services that have a perfectly justified spot in the hosting cloud.

	And doing so on the company blog. Where the target audience is hosting professionals. I came.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you improve your own service and pricing instead of bashing other services that have a perfectly justified spot in the hosting cloud.</p>
<p>	And doing so on the company blog. Where the target audience is hosting professionals. I came.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3958</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ryan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 09:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joyent is great but I wish it was a bit easier to setup and manage an instance of python above 2.4 on joyent without pain. Django support easily would be nice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joyent is great but I wish it was a bit easier to setup and manage an instance of python above 2.4 on joyent without pain. Django support easily would be nice.</p>
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		<title>By: Niall Kennedy</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3957</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Niall Kennedy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Feb 2009 22:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@&#8220;David&#8221;:http://www.joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill#c010316

	BigTable is the underlying common name for the GAE datastore. It&#8217;s really Megastore, a new data abstraction layer maintained by Google for internal use. Discussed at SIGMOD and &lt;a href=&quot;http://sites.google.com/site/io/under-the-covers-of-the-google-app-engine-datastore&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;at Google I/O&lt;/a&gt; last year. BigTable is &lt;em&gt;so&lt;/em&gt; 2006&#8230;

	Greenplum, Aster, HBase, etc. abstract the datastore across multiple machines in ways that may prove similar to GAE&#8217;s implementation. I&#8217;m less familiar with geo-distributed data stores (e.g. east coast and west coast US) available from managed hosts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@&#8220;David&#8221;:<a href="http://www.joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill#c010316" rel="nofollow">http://www.joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill#c010316</a></p>
<p>	BigTable is the underlying common name for the GAE datastore. It&#8217;s really Megastore, a new data abstraction layer maintained by Google for internal use. Discussed at SIGMOD and <a href="http://sites.google.com/site/io/under-the-covers-of-the-google-app-engine-datastore" rel="nofollow">at Google I/O</a> last year. BigTable is <em>so</em> 2006&#8230;</p>
<p>	Greenplum, Aster, HBase, etc. abstract the datastore across multiple machines in ways that may prove similar to GAE&#8217;s implementation. I&#8217;m less familiar with geo-distributed data stores (e.g. east coast and west coast US) available from managed hosts.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3956</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Brian: send me an email to david {at} joyent and we&#8217;ll get you into the beta queue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Brian: send me an email to david {at} joyent and we&#8217;ll get you into the beta queue.</p>
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		<title>By: David Young</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3955</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[David Young]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Niall: I wasn&#8217;t really claiming Joyent Accelerators are the same as GAE. Nor is GAE Amazon EC2. GAE and Joyent Smart will be more comparable.

	Could you point me to a version of Google &lt;a href=&quot;http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;BigTable&lt;/a&gt; I can run on Joyent, then I&#8217;ll provide you with a solution so that &#8220;developers and the companies behind them might pick the best platform for their language of choice&#8221;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Niall: I wasn&#8217;t really claiming Joyent Accelerators are the same as GAE. Nor is GAE Amazon EC2. GAE and Joyent Smart will be more comparable.</p>
<p>	Could you point me to a version of Google <a href="http://labs.google.com/papers/bigtable.html" rel="nofollow">BigTable</a> I can run on Joyent, then I&#8217;ll provide you with a solution so that &#8220;developers and the companies behind them might pick the best platform for their language of choice&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Anderson</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3954</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian Anderson]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 21:30:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love to be an early beta tester for your javascript platform. I am developing an open source javascript based media player that will be able to hook up to any back end and do all of its communication via JSON. I&#8217;d love to be able to write JS for the serverside portion as well.

	Are you guys looking for beta testers?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to be an early beta tester for your javascript platform. I am developing an open source javascript based media player that will be able to hook up to any back end and do all of its communication via JSON. I&#8217;d love to be able to write JS for the serverside portion as well.</p>
<p>	Are you guys looking for beta testers?</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3953</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tim]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 09:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would love a fully-managed but private server offering.

	I would gladly give over root access to Joyent if that meant they kept my system up-to-date.

	Essentially, what you get on a shared server but on my own Private VPS.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love a fully-managed but private server offering.</p>
<p>	I would gladly give over root access to Joyent if that meant they kept my system up-to-date.</p>
<p>	Essentially, what you get on a shared server but on my own Private VPS.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Youngman</title>
		<link>http://joyeur.com/2009/02/24/google-app-engine-misfit-toys-come-to-jill/#comment-3952</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nathan Youngman]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Feb 2009 06:45:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder if that 45,000 counts apps like mine, where I&#8217;ve made an app but done nothing with it. That would skew the calculations.

	Just thinking that one interesting side effect of quota based systems like GAE, AWS and Aptana Cloud is it encourages more fine tuning. The effort profiling and tuning could has an obvious monetary benefit. Sounds like a good thing&#8230;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder if that 45,000 counts apps like mine, where I&#8217;ve made an app but done nothing with it. That would skew the calculations.</p>
<p>	Just thinking that one interesting side effect of quota based systems like GAE, AWS and Aptana Cloud is it encourages more fine tuning. The effort profiling and tuning could has an obvious monetary benefit. Sounds like a good thing&#8230;</p>
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